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October 28, 2006

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David G from Zillow.com

Hi John, it's David G from Zillow.com.

Transparency is important to Zillow. We take a serious approach to what we do but we also emphasise educating consumers about the limitations of our tools.

Please take another look -- as you should have noticed:
1) Zillow's data and valuation accuracy reporting -- the link is in the search box on the home page -- the most prominent spot on our website.
2) A link that says "What's this" next to the Zestimate on the house's detail page. The text box that link activates says "A Zestimate home valuation is Zillow's estimated market value. It is not an appraisal. Use it as a starting point to determine a home's value. Learn more"
3) A tab at the top of your page that says "How to Use Zillow" -- that organizes help topics simply, highlighting the most important content for buyers, sellers and owners ...

... this list could go on and I haven't even pointing out the links at the bottom of the page yet. Ours is a complex site -- and there's detailed information available for passionate real estate enthusiasts but we have also made the most valuable snippets of that information readily available to the casual visitor.

John Schneider

Hi Dave G.
I've been MIA for a few days and so have been very remiss in responding to your comments regarding my post 'Your Edge in Real Estate’
I think it’s generally recognized that Zillow arrived earlier this year with great fanfare and high hopes from many people based on the promise of-
Free, Instant Valuations and Data for 67,000,000+ Homes.
Not- ‘Free, Instant Approximate, or Starting Point, Valuations and Data for …, and depending on your area these valuations will fall within a 10,20,30 or 40% range of accuracy.’ Just Free, Instant Valuations …
Followed by, (…and you don’t have to enter any personal information and no one will contact you) Might this imply that Zillow has all the information that you might need, all the information that is necessary to arrive at these instant valuations. And that there’s No need to be bothered with the nuisance, or the expense of consulting with a Realtor or Appraiser or other knowledgeable individual regarding property values.
This is further reinforced by,
>Buyers: Compare values to avoid overpaying
>Sellers: Use our tools to help set a price
>Owners: Track your most important asset
As I said, these are simple, straightforward and unambiguous claims.
The problem is that it is not so. A Buyer, Seller, or Owner cannot use Zillow to- compare values to avoid overpaying, or to Use our tools to help set a price, or to track your most important asset. People cannot do that on Zillow, not with a reasonable degree of accuracy and reliability. And as I read it, accuracy and reliability are implied in those claims that Zillow makes prominently and consistently on the website. And Zillow has not shown that it can back up those claims with a reasonable expectation that the results are accurate and reliable.
Yes David, I understand that the numerous links and resulting fine print cover all the necessary disclaimers required to back peddle on the prominent and consistent claims.
But this is not chewing gum or soft drinks that Zillow is selling, ‘Makes Your Teeth sparkle’, ‘Coke is it’. This stuff is more important to people’s lives and livelihoods.
The problem for Zillow and the reason it has caught the ire of so many, is that Zillow has from the very beginning over-promised and under-delivered and continues to stubbornly refuse to prominently and consistently level with the public about what it can and cannot do. The result is that Zillow has become the subject of ridicule rather than high hopes, and along the way has lost much of its promise and sparkle.

jf.sellsius

It has always struck me as odd that Zillow will say it has a disclaimer but refuse to put it prominently or conspicuously on the home page. What's the big deal? In some states it is mandatory for a CMA to have a non-appraisal disclaimer on the front page. I understand an AVM is not a CMA but why does a computer (Zillow) get a pass while a professional who visits the property does not?

You have to ask yourself WHY they they don't want the disclaimer on the home page. The answer seems to me that they fear it will drive away customers when in fact they will endear consumers for their honesty and gain some respect from the real estate community.

Zillow does well by the consumer in giving data & it has tried to get consumers to cover the holes in that data but to stubbornly hold to this position makes no sense unless you have done market studies to convince you that it would harm your business model.
Just my opinion.

John Schneider

JF, The big deal for Zillow, is that Zillow is doing everything they can to keep the ball in the air, because that's where the game is.
While it's in the air, no one's going to get a hot dog or a coke -cause everybody's watchin' the ball.

jf.sellsius

Very solid points John. The promises to buyers & sellers (to compare values so as not to overpay & to help price your home---big consumer WANTS) are shouted at the point of first consumer contact but the "backpeddling" disclamers are whispered (you have open the "what's this" door NOT a "disclaimer" door.)

Daid G. ---is there a reason for NOT having the disclaimer on the home page? Has the question ever been answered? Having that answer may appease us lowly bloggers who think it's a big deal for consumers. HAve any consumer studies been done to see if consumers are getting the disclaimer?

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